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    Obama not eligible for office of POTUS

    I'm somewhat surprised this isn't getting more play in the MSM, but then again, why would they let facts get in the way of the ascension of the Obamasiah?

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The following is an article from the July 7, 2008, issue #27 from "The
    American Free Press" Newspaper, an article by Assistant editor, Pat
    Shannon.

    "It now appears that Barack Obama is consitutionally ineligible for the
    office of president. John McCain's eligibility was established in 1964,
    when courts ruled Sen. Barry Goldwater was eligible although he was born
    in Arizona when it was a territory, not a state. McCain was born in the
    Panama Canal Zone when it was a U.S.territory.

    And, even as the controlled media continues to ignore the ineligibility
    of Obama, it will not go away. While few doubt that the Democrats will
    manage to pull off his nomination, all remain poised to view the legal
    performance.

    The first hurdle will be having Obama produce his birth certificate,
    which so far he has refused to do, and prove that he was born in Hawaii
    on August 4, 1961, as he has always claimed. There is speculation that
    his American mother may have brought him to Honolulu shortly after his
    birth in Kenya, but no proof of that has been shown.

    According to the law on the books at the time of Obama's birth, the
    office of president requires that a candidate be a natural citizen if
    the child was not born to two U.S.citizen parents. Since he was
    not,should it be proven that Obama was not born in Hawaii, as claimed,
    he is ineligible without further debate. But assuring that he was born
    there, he has another problem.

    According to a legal researcher who has contacted the AFP, U.S.law very
    clearly states: "If only one parent is a U.S.citizen at the time of
    one's birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for a
    minimum of 10 years, five of which must be after the age of 16." And
    therein lies Obama's new problem.

    Barack Obama's father was never a U.S.citizen.

    Interestingly, there isn't much paperwork on the marriage of Obama's
    parents, and this has a few researchers speculating that it never took
    place at all. On page 27 of "Obama: From Promise to Power", David
    Mendell
    writes: "Obama later confessed that he never searched for the
    government documents on the marriage, although Madelyn (Obama's maternal
    grandmother) insisted they were legally married." He also notes that
    Obama's father apparently was not legally divorced from his first wife
    back in Kenya at the time, a point of contention that ultimately led to
    their separation.
    This also would suggest that there may never have been any legal
    marriage by Obama's parents at all, but the Constitution does not ban an
    illegitimate child from the White House, as long as he was born inside
    the U.S.

    Obama's mother was born in Kansas and was only 18 when Obama was born.
    This means even though she satisfied the citizen requirement for 10
    years, she was not a citizen for at least five years prior to Obama's
    birth. In essence, the mother alone is not old enough to qualify her
    som for automatic U.S.citizenship. At most, two years elapsed from his
    mother turning 16 to the time of Barack Obama's birth when she was 18.
    His mother would have needed to have been 16 + 5 = 21 years old at the
    time of Barack Obama's birth for him to be a natural-born citizen.
    Barack Obama was already three years old at the time his mother turned
    21.

    Technically, Obama should have been naturalized as a citizen, but that,
    of course, would disqualify him from holding the office of president.
    If the allegations are accurate, America could install in January of
    2009 a new president who is not even a U.S.citizen, neither born nor
    naturalized.

    It should be demanded that Obama produce his 1961 Hawaiian birth
    certificate.

    If he cannot satisfactorily do so, he should be deemed immediately
    ineligible to hold the office of president."

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    http://web.israelinsider.com/Article...tics/12993.htm

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Document forensics expert: Obama "birth certificate" a "horrible forgery"
    By Israel Insider staff July 20, 2008

    The purported Certification of Live Birth published by the Daily Kos left wing blog and claimed as genuine by the Obama campaign features a security border that differs dramatically from security borders on COLB documents before and after the one supposedly printed out for Obama in 2007.

    Barack Obama may be on a world tour surrounded by a fawning media, but Sunday an expert in electronic document forensics released a detailed report on the purported birth certificate -- actually a "Certification of Live Birth" or COLB -- claimed as genuine by his campaign. The expert concludes with 100% certainty that it is a crudely forged fake: "a horribly forgery," according to the analysis published on the popular right-wing Atlas Shrugs blog.

    The purported birth certificate was published by the left wing Daily Kos blog on June 12 in response to unconfirmed reports that Obama was not in fact born in the United States (Canada and Kenya were suggested as the possible locations of his actual birth). Since he would in that case not be a natural born US citizen (his mother was not present in the US sufficiently long as an adult to pass American citizenship on to him automatically), he would not be eligible to be president. Israel Insider has followed the story in five previous articles (the previous one here) and uncovered evidence, most recently, of admitted forgery among Daily Kos bloggers, tolerance of electronic forgeries on the blog site, as well as efforts by a blog administrator to conceal the admission of forgery.

    The latest examinaton of the purported documents is by far the most detailed and technically sophisticated to date.

    Atlas Shrugs publisher Pamela Geller reports that the expert analyst, who goes by the screen name "Techdude", is "an active member of the Association of Certified Fraud Examiners, American College of Forensic Examiners, The International Society of Forensic Computer Examiners, International Information Systems Forensics Association -- the list goes on. He also a board certified as a forensic computer examiner, a certificated legal investigator, and a licensed private investigator. He has been performing computer-based forensic investigations since 1993 (although back then it did not even have a formal name yet) and he has performed countless investigations since then."


    Perhaps the outspoken Israeli press corps will be able to do what their fawning American counterparts have failed to do so far. Obama's visit this week to Israel will be an opportunity to begin asking the tough questions -- however unpolitically correct -- about his apparently forged birth certificate and what that means for his citizenship status and Constitutional fitness to be the next leader of the free world.


    The pseudonym was apparently inadequate to prevent Techdude's identity from being exposed. He reports that last week one or more persons "decided to track me down and vandalize my car and hang a dead mutilated rabbit from my front door in a lame attempt to intimidate me from proceeding with releasing any details of my analysis. They did succeed in delaying the report by a few days but instead of deterring me they just really pissed me off. To their credit, if I had not taken a few days off from the analysis I would have missed the most damning piece of evidence -- the remnants of the previous security border."

    Techdude's detailed report, which runs more than 3000 words and 20 pages with extensive magnified illustrations and comparisons, reaches the following conclusion about the documented that was first published on the Daily Kos extreme left-wing blog and subsequently publicly endorsed by the Obama campaign, both in statements by official spokesmen, and featured on its "Fight the Smears" website. Here are some of conclusions:

    "The (Daily) KOS image security border pattern does not match any known specimen from any known year. It does not match the pre-2006 nor does it match the post-2006 certificate patterns. The placement of the text in all of the pre-2006 and post-2006 certificates are almost identical pixel location matches while the image?s text placement does not match any known specimen from any known year. The shape and kerning of the fonts used in the 2006 through 2008 certificates are identical while the shape and kerning of the fonts used in the image does not match any known specimen. The KOS image shows clear signs of tampering such as the mismatch in RGB and error levels, visible indications of the previous location of the erased security border, easily detectable patterns of repeating flaws around the new security border, EXIF data that says the image was last saved with Photoshop CS3 for Macintosh, and finally a technician from Hawaii who confirms it just looks wrong."

    The evidence, he says, allows for two possible scenarios by which the document was fabricated:

    "There are two obvious scenarios used to create the image that can be ascertained from evidence. Either a real COLB was scanned into Photoshop and digitally edited or a real COLB was first scanned to obtain the graphic layout then blanked by soaking the document in solvent to remove the toner. After rescanning the blank page to a separate image the graphics from the previously obtained scan could then be easily applied to the blank scan after some editing and rebuilding. It would also explain why date stamp bleeds through the paper and the various bits of toner located around the image as well as the remnants of the previous location of a security border."

    The purported birth certificate was published by the Daily Kos on June 12 in response to unconfirmed reports that Obama was not in fact born in the United States (Canada and Kenya were suggested as the possible locations of his actual birth). Since he would in that case not be a natural born US citizen (his mother was not present in the US sufficiently long as an adult to pass American citizenship on to him automatically), he would not be eligible to be president.

    After more than a month of controversy and demands that the Obama campaign produce a paper birth certificate for analysis, this damning new evidence raises the stakes for the democratic party and its front-runner.

    Will Obama and his people continue to stonewall in the facing of the mounting evidence of forgery, and provide paper proof of an authentic, original birth certificate or even a genuine secondary Certificate of Live Birth? And will the mass media and mainstream pundits -- which so far have hesitated to touch the hot potato -- finally address the loaded issue of his possible unfitness to meet the basic Constitutional requirement for a President?

    Perhaps the outspoken Israeli press corps will be able to do what their fawning American counterparts have failed to do so far. Obama's visit this week to Israel will be an opportunity to begin asking the tough questions -- however unpolitically correct -- about his apparently forged birth certificate and what that means for his citizenship status and Constitutional fitness to be the next leader of the free world.

    This is the sixth of a series on the purported Obama birth certificate. Here's where you can find Part 1, 2, 3 4, and 5.</div></div>
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    Re: Obama not eligible for office of POTUS

    I'm sure if there was some real truth to this the media(bias or not) would be all over it in a heartbeat...doesn't seem like thats the case though.

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    Re: Obama not eligible for office of POTUS

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: raider13</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm sure if there was some real truth to this the media(bias or not) would be all over it in a heartbeat...doesn't seem like thats the case though. </div></div>

    Yeah, the media would love to expose their golden boy as a fraud.

    Damn you reveal your ignorance daily...
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    Re: Obama not eligible for office of POTUS

    Yeah theres that big conspiracy, what a f'ing joke. Was the media his friend when all that with Wright was going on? Or when there was the Muslim bit? etc...Maybe if this was true, Mccain might have said something about it?...You would think that Mccain would make this a point of emphasis, since this would disqualify his opponent that could very well beat him in this election..but once again thats not the case.


    Same to you.

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    Re: Obama not eligible for office of POTUS

    he isn't everybody's "darling".

    if this were true, people would be all over it and somebody would be dying to get it out there. that's the way the news works, they would rather sling dirt on people and pull skeleton's out of closets than report anything good...

    and i'm pretty sure the republicans would be going crazy about this right now.......

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    Okay we canned Obama ....what a step up. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif[/img]

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    Re: Obama not eligible for office of POTUS

    we all know how the Jewish have been supportive of Obama, why in the world would they run an article like that?? [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/crazy.gif[/img]
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    Re: Obama not eligible for office of POTUS

    Figures it was too good to be true.
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    Re: Obama not eligible for office of POTUS

    Personally, I thought he was ET's son. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif[/img]
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